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The Motley Fool chats with fund managers so that you can get an insight into how the professionals think. In part one of this edition, weâre joined by Grant Nichols, fund manager of the $2.4 billion Centuria Office REIT (ASX: COF), Australiaâs largest listed pure-play office REIT. Today, Nichols explains how COF has kept its office space almost fully occupied during and after the COVID pandemic, and whatâs keeping REIT investors awake at night.
The Motley Fool: COF reported some strong financials for FY22. Those included a statutory net profit of $115 million, up 50% year-on-year; occupancy levels increasing to 94.7%; and 98.2% average rent collection. How did the office REIT achieve that?
Grant Nichols: Leasing across the portfolio underpinned our results for FY22. We had a really good year of leasing; 41,000 square metres of net lettable area, which is about 13% of the portfolio NLA.
And thatâs continued on what has been a very good leasing story across the portfolio for quite some time. Since the outbreak of COVID, weâve leased in excess of 120,000 square metres of space. Which is about 40% of our portfolioâs net lettable area.
This is in contrast to some of the media stories weâre hearing about the concerns for ongoing tenant demand for office space. What weâre seeing across our portfolio is weâve completed a lot of leasing; weâve been able to track and retain a lot of our tenants and increase occupancy. So, itâs been a very good story.
The reason weâre able to do that is primarily due to the portfolio weâre providing.
Weâre certainly seeing the flight to quality from tenants. Tenants are looking to get into better quality office space. And we have one of the youngest portfolios you can invest into, with the average age of our assets being around 16 years.
We feel weâre providing an accommodation solution thatâs meeting the needs of the tenants, at the moment.
MF: On the topic of COVID, have you noticed a big bounce back in office space demand from the pandemic shutdown periods?
GN: We didnât have any material deterioration in tenant demand through COVID.
Thereâs a lot of talk in the market about office occupancy. And thatâs because there is now a more versatile work opportunity. People are working from home more than they were doing before COVID.
But tenant demand across our portfolio hasnât materially changed.
What you need to think about is that if people are working from the office on Tuesday, Wednesday and Thursday, that doesnât mean that office space, or your tenant footprint, contracts by 30% to 40%.
Because, ultimately, the whole point of having a centralised workplace is allowing all the staff to be in the same place at the same time, cooperating and communicating. And if youâre not providing that opportunity, it reduces the benefit of having that centralised workplace.
So, what weâre seeing across our portfolio is that tenant footprints arenât materially changing. In fact, in some cases theyâre increasing as tenants want to provide more breakout space for that kind of cooperation.
Itâs just that the tenant occupancy within that accommodation may not be as used as it was pre-COVID. So instead of having 80% occupancy five days per week, it might be 80% occupancy for three days per week.
Thatâs where weâre seeing a change.
MF: Circling back to the strong FY22 results your ASX REIT posted. Despite those numbers, investors pushed down the COF share price by some 8% on the day of the results release. What do you think caused that?
GN: The biggest issue investors have at the moment is what the impact of rising interest rates will have on not only office but commercial property generally.
There are two items to that.
Thereâs the velocity of the interest rate change. I donât know if weâve ever been in a situation thatâs seen interest rates increase at the rapid rate that weâre seeing at the moment.
Also, thereâs still conjecture about where the neutral rate will moderate going forward.
I think most people are in agreement that the neutral interest rate will be lower than what it has been in the past. But thereâs still conjecture in regards to what level that will be.
Thatâs where the concerns for investors lie across the [real estate investment trust] REIT market, that caution around interest rates.
Once thereâs a greater consensus around where interest rates are going to moderate, I think thatâs where youâll see more confidence from investors looking at commercial property and commercial property REITs.
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Tune in tomorrow for part two of our interview, where Centuriaâs Grant Nichols looks at two tailwinds the office market could receive from rising inflation.
(You can find out more about the Centuria Office REIT (ASX: COF) here.)
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