Sergey Brin says his commute involves talking to an unreleased Gemini AI model about building data centers

• Google cofounder Sergey Brin said he asks Gemini Live about data center costs while driving.
• Brin said he's been using an unreleased version as the current Gemini Live AI is backed by an "ancient model."
• "Give me a few weeks to actually ship what I have access to," he said during a recent Stanford panel interview.

Sergey Brin has been dogfooding Google's AI on his commute.

The Google cofounder has been back in the thick of the company's AI development after stepping down as president of Alphabet in 2019, returning in recent years to work on Gemini.

At a Stanford University panel last week, an audience member asked Brin how he stayed sharp. What podcasts did Brin listen to in the car?

"I do talk to Gemini Live in the car often," Brin said. "I just talk to it about stuff on my drive."

Brin gave an example of what he asked Gemini Live while driving: "I want to develop a data center, I need how many hundreds of megawatts of this kind of power, that kind of power, how much it's going to cost."

Gemini Live is Google's voice-enabled AI chatbot. The company first demoed the product in May 2024 at Google I/O and made it freely available in September 2024.

For car-chatting enthusiasts, Brin recommended drivers "shouldn't do it now, because we have a way better version coming."

"The publicly available version right now is not the good version," he said. "Give me a few weeks to actually ship what I have access to."

Brin said that the current available version of Gemini Live is backed by an "ancient model."

Google's recent model updates have made waves in the AI world. In November, the company debuted Gemini 3. The model is more visual, Google said, and its "most factual" model to date.

Gemini 3 was also the first model Google added directly to search on day one. Users could immediately access it by clicking "AI Mode," rather than having to visit a separate app or website.

The other LLM makers took note. Meta employees now have access to Gemini 3 Pro.

On the panel, Brin acknowledged that his answer to the driving question seemed "kind of self-advertising." He does listen to some podcasts, he said.

"The 'All In' guys are actually one of my favorites," he said. Brin has appeared on the podcast multiple times.